That's not to blame on the operating system. Android's fragmentation is not Google's fault, they make the system available to everyone. The manufacturers need to learn that heavy, hard to upgrade customizations aren't always better.

Perhaps more importantly, who's in charge of pressing "go" matters too. Verizon has had 1.4.5 for months. AT&T probably as long. What are these people *doing* with these?? Palm should be pushing these themselves.

That's not to blame on the operating system. Android's fragmentation is not Google's fault, they make the system available to everyone. The manufacturers need to learn that heavy, hard to upgrade customizations aren't always better.

Perhaps more importantly, who's in charge of pressing "go" matters too. Verizon has had 1.4.5 for months. AT&T probably as long. What are these people *doing* with these?? Palm should be pushing these themselves.

That's not to blame on the operating system. Android's fragmentation is not Google's fault, they make the system available to everyone. The manufacturers need to learn that heavy, hard to upgrade customizations aren't always better.

Perhaps more importantly, who's in charge of pressing "go" matters too. Verizon has had 1.4.5 for months. AT&T probably as long. What are these people *doing* with these?? Palm should be pushing these themselves.

Sorry but it is true, I don't even know what kind of OS Palm has until the recent years… because when I looked at the style of the Palm smart phones, I already gave up on buying… not stylish enough. That's is my opinion. If I could not afford IPhone or android, I would still choose Nokia, Samsung over Palm without the need of knowing the OS.

Sorry but it is true, I don't even know what kind of OS Palm has until the recent years… because when I looked at the style of the Palm smart phones, I already gave up on buying… not stylish enough. That's is my opinion. If I could not afford IPhone or android, I would still choose Nokia, Samsung over Palm without the need of knowing the OS.

1. WebOS is lacking that “killer app”, that would make it a must-have. yah, but, yeah, but… but that’s true – there’s no google maps comparable to Android’s there.

2. Palm is lacking that “killer hardware” phone, that would make it a must-have, and made a flagship for WebOS. I mean, there are no Snapdragons in their lair, nor big hardened glass WVGA screens, etc.

So, it might be the best overall platform today, but it all might end up being irrelevant – since there’s nothing to show up, apart from shuffling the cards – if Palm did not change the game quite radically and SOMEHOW made people line up for the WebOS devices, and FAST. Which will be increasingly difficult, with the pressure mounting up from the Android phones, and their prices coming down – I am seriously considering buying meself a Droid, with their prices being down to ~€450, unlocked, no contract.

Don’t get me wrong, I love my Pre, I am just getting impatient to see any serious application development attempts on the device (apart from homebrew, which is hardly mainstream, and couple of games -impressive indeed, but unfortunately not available here in Europe), and am having more and more doubts if Palm can manage to cut themself a big enough piece of a cake to sustain the company & WebOS development.

1. WebOS is lacking that “killer app”, that would make it a must-have. yah, but, yeah, but… but that’s true – there’s no google maps comparable to Android’s there.

2. Palm is lacking that “killer hardware” phone, that would make it a must-have, and made a flagship for WebOS. I mean, there are no Snapdragons in their lair, nor big hardened glass WVGA screens, etc.

So, it might be the best overall platform today, but it all might end up being irrelevant – since there’s nothing to show up, apart from shuffling the cards – if Palm did not change the game quite radically and SOMEHOW made people line up for the WebOS devices, and FAST. Which will be increasingly difficult, with the pressure mounting up from the Android phones, and their prices coming down – I am seriously considering buying meself a Droid, with their prices being down to ~€450, unlocked, no contract.

Don’t get me wrong, I love my Pre, I am just getting impatient to see any serious application development attempts on the device (apart from homebrew, which is hardly mainstream, and couple of games -impressive indeed, but unfortunately not available here in Europe), and am having more and more doubts if Palm can manage to cut themself a big enough piece of a cake to sustain the company & WebOS development.

1. WebOS is lacking that “killer app”, that would make it a must-have. yah, but, yeah, but… but that’s true – there’s no google maps comparable to Android’s there.

2. Palm is lacking that “killer hardware” phone, that would make it a must-have, and made a flagship for WebOS. I mean, there are no Snapdragons in their lair, nor big hardened glass WVGA screens, etc.

So, it might be the best overall platform today, but it all might end up being irrelevant – since there’s nothing to show up, apart from shuffling the cards – if Palm did not change the game quite radically and SOMEHOW made people line up for the WebOS devices, and FAST. Which will be increasingly difficult, with the pressure mounting up from the Android phones, and their prices coming down – I am seriously considering buying meself a Droid, with their prices being down to ~€450, unlocked, no contract.

Don’t get me wrong, I love my Pre, I am just getting impatient to see any serious application development attempts on the device (apart from homebrew, which is hardly mainstream, and couple of games -impressive indeed, but unfortunately not available here in Europe), and am having more and more doubts if Palm can manage to cut themself a big enough piece of a cake to sustain the company & WebOS development.