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Want $1,500? A free app by Cloud Genki can help

By: , 9/23/2010 3:17 pm | 33 comments

So earlier this week an app was released called “One Year Free Service”. Doesn’t quite roll off the tongue there, but it definitely is descriptive. The purpose of the app is to provide a sweepstakes of sorts. Download the free PDK app and you can enter to win a year of free phone service (in the form of a check for $1,500). Sounds pretty simple right? Well, when the app was released a firestorm of vitriol was unleashed on the developer. People on various forums and app reviews jumped on the dev calling them swindlers, cheats, etc. etc.

Since these guys were new to the community we wanted to get to the bottom of things. Here’s what we found out.

Cloud Genki is a group of friends based out of California who like to develop apps (contrary to popular belief they are not “foreigners”) . Here is what they have to say about themselves:

As a company, collectively we stand for great design, creations that inspire taking a second look, creating value with technology, traveling, worldly cuisines, good health physically & mentally, cubicle-less work environments, vegetarianism, social justice and compassion for all beings.

As you can tell from the quote above, they are a diverse group who don’t like meat. Actually, they are a good group of guys just getting started in the mobile game.

Wait…What?

What the heck does this have to do with WOR? No worries, I’m getting there…

Cloud Genki’s first app is “One Year Free Service”. They wanted to create an app that represents a new type of sweepstakes that doesn’t require an email address and wouldn’t spam you ard be obnoxious. In the end they had three goals with the project.

  • Create goodwill with users quickly
  • A chance in Hot Apps
  • A chance to do something interesting with limited time.  

The problem is they hit a big speed bump with bullet one there…as soon as their app launched people immediately decided that they were up to no good. The biggest complaint was the fact that these guys came out of nowhere and no one could be sure that in the end the $1,500 would ever get paid out. That’s where we come in…

Part of WOR has always been to help developers join with the community. Once we learned that Cloud Genki wasn’t a bunch of crooks we decided to help out. The end result is that we have become the brokers for the sweepstakes that is behind the app. The prize money is safely sitting in our accounts so you can be sure that if you win, you will get paid. When the winner is chosen at the end of the competition, you will go directly through us so that there is no confusion.

Also, to prove that they are here for the long haul and not just for a quick try at hot apps, they have agreed to run the contest at least one more time and, if they can keep it profitable, on an ongoing basis.

To be clear, WOR is not endorsing the app. If you do not like sweepstakes apps or the idea of it, then don’t download it. No harm, no foul. However, if you have been hesitant to download it because you were afraid that the company behind it was a bit shady, then we are here to tell you that it is all legit.

If you want to learn more, check out the app’s page on appSpotlight.

The future of Genki

Aside from this app, the guys at Cloud Genki are hard at work on several apps (there is a concept shot to the right). Here is, in their own words, what they are working on.

We’re working on several projects but the main focus is on a suite of health apps.  We’ve seen the health & vitality of people around the world & frankly we don’t feel that the US is in the best standing.  We believe that helping people to live healthier lives in terms of their diet, mental & physical health will be a major step in the right direction for this country and the world.  So these apps will provide basic knowledge, encouragement and dynamic, user shared knowledge around targeted health topics.  We aren’t ready to go deep into specific details as we’ve got a ways to go before we’re ready to release, but something we thought the development community might be interested in is what we’re working on around the community aspect of these apps.

We want to make it easy for users of these apps to ask each other questions and share knowledge.  We’ve been looking into various Q&A systems to integrate into these apps and while we love the Stack Exchange design with its cool community aspect, their decision last Spring to move to a well..uh unique model of operation is not something we’re incredibly excited about.  So we took a look at our options & we’re pretty settled on OSQA – http://www.osqa.net/ We’ve been experimenting with whether to just create a mobile site template or to go the route of using an API to really get full in-app integration.  We’re 90% sure that we’re going the API route, however unfortunately there isn’t an API…  So we’re starting to work with/look at Piston to help address this need but we’ve still got plenty of work ahead of us.  If anyone is interested in collaborating here please hit us up – or of course if there are any other suggestions here that we might have overlooked.  We feel that mobile forums just haven’t been done well yet for the most part.

Another approach we’re taking with these apps that might be of interest is that we want to make them as portable as possible.  This is actually one of the reasons that we became very interested in webOS since as we all know HTML5, CSS & JS are the most intriguing options right now for cross platform development and Palm’s SDK is exactly that.  It’s a hard decision at this time as to which framework to base an app on, if any & we hope that webOS will be a leader in this area since they’ve got the platform for it.  It’s a shame that frameworks like Sencha Touch, JQuery (soon JQuery mobile) and heck even just features like cache manifest files aren’t yet easily or fully supported.  We think that Palm could be an even more interesting platform for developers if they had a stronger cross platform story.

So there you have it…The sweepstakes is legit and Cloud Genki isn’t going to rob your house and steal your children. They are new devs just like most of the webOS community. I, for one, wish them the best and look forward to their future apps.

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About David Baxter

David is the founder and Editor-in-Chief of webOSroundup. When not toiling away at WOR he is usually with his family, at church, building a website of some kind or another, or playing a video game. @davidbbaxter
  • http://twitter.com/tsaunders @tsaunders

    Welcome to the community!

    They should look into http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/05/stack-excha… they have a private API right now.

    • http://cloudgenki.com cloudgenki

      Thank you we really appreciate it!

      On the stackexchange API are you suggesting it just in terms of checking out their approach? Unfortunately due to the drastic changes stackexchange made to their model – http://bit.ly/a2jaP5 – we don't feel that they are a fit for us. This is why we've been looking into alternative solutions like OSQA or Shapado.

    • http://cloudgenki.com cloudgenki

      Thank you we really appreciate it!

      On the stackexchange API are you suggesting it just in terms of checking out their approach? Unfortunately due to the drastic changes stackexchange made to their model – http://bit.ly/a2jaP5 – we don't feel that they are a fit for us. This is why we've been looking into alternative solutions like OSQA or Shapado.

  • http://twitter.com/tsaunders @tsaunders

    Welcome to the community!

    They should look into http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/05/stack-excha… they have a private API right now.

  • http://twitter.com/tsaunders @tsaunders

    Welcome to the community!

    They should look into http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/05/stack-excha… they have a private API right now.

    • http://cloudgenki.com cloudgenki

      Thank you we really appreciate it!

      On the stackexchange API are you suggesting it just in terms of checking out their approach? Unfortunately due to the drastic changes stackexchange made to their model – http://bit.ly/a2jaP5 – we don't feel that they are a fit for us. This is why we've been looking into alternative solutions like OSQA or Shapado.

  • http://twitter.com/benfysh @benfysh

    Some non US love would be nice, us folks on this side of the pond like free money to ;)

    • http://twitter.com/cloudgenki @cloudgenki

      Understood and the problem is just that there are some extra complications for this type of promotion when allowing those outside of the US to participate. However as mentioned above we are going to run this promo again and so we'll have some time to look into this before then. I think there's a very good chance we'll be able to make this more international next time.

    • http://twitter.com/cloudgenki @cloudgenki

      Understood and the problem is just that there are some extra complications for this type of promotion when allowing those outside of the US to participate. However as mentioned above we are going to run this promo again and so we'll have some time to look into this before then. I think there's a very good chance we'll be able to make this more international next time.

    • http://twitter.com/cloudgenki @cloudgenki

      Understood and the problem is just that there are some extra complications for this type of promotion when allowing those outside of the US to participate. However as mentioned above we are going to run this promo again and so we'll have some time to look into this before then. I think there's a very good chance we'll be able to make this more international next time.

  • http://twitter.com/benfysh @benfysh

    Some non US love would be nice, us folks on this side of the pond like free money to ;)

    • http://twitter.com/cloudgenki @cloudgenki

      Understood and the problem is just that there are some extra complications for this type of promotion when allowing those outside of the US to participate. However as mentioned above we are going to run this promo again and so we'll have some time to look into this before then. I think there's a very good chance we'll be able to make this more international next time.

  • http://prenooz.tumblr.com/ Vyktureous

    The article fails to address whether they are simply using the contest as a ploy to quickly amass a vast email addresses library and for what purpose(s).

    @prenooz

    • http://twitter.com/zerosaves @zerosaves

      As it says above and also in the app description, they do not ask for an e-mail. The only thing their app can record is what OS version number, model, and carrier etc etc, most likely the same info Metrix can record.

    • http://twitter.com/zerosaves @zerosaves

      As it says above and also in the app description, they do not ask for an e-mail. The only thing their app can record is what OS version number, model, and carrier etc etc, most likely the same info Metrix can record.

    • http://twitter.com/zerosaves @zerosaves

      As it says above and also in the app description, they do not ask for an e-mail. The only thing their app can record is what OS version number, model, and carrier etc etc, most likely the same info Metrix can record.

    • http://cloudgenki.com cloudgenki

      @Vyktureous We understand your concern & no, we are not collecting any information about users at all, we only use their device ID which all developers have access to so that we may associate their entry with their device. So more directly we are not using this promotion as a ploy to collect any user information whatsoever and we have no way to do so with the unique way we've designed the application.

    • http://cloudgenki.com cloudgenki

      @Vyktureous We understand your concern & no, we are not collecting any information about users at all, we only use their device ID which all developers have access to so that we may associate their entry with their device. So more directly we are not using this promotion as a ploy to collect any user information whatsoever and we have no way to do so with the unique way we've designed the application.

    • http://cloudgenki.com cloudgenki

      @Vyktureous We understand your concern & no, we are not collecting any information about users at all, we only use their device ID which all developers have access to so that we may associate their entry with their device. So more directly we are not using this promotion as a ploy to collect any user information whatsoever and we have no way to do so with the unique way we've designed the application.

  • http://prenooz.tumblr.com/ Vyktureous

    The article fails to address whether they are simply using the contest as a ploy to quickly amass a vast email addresses library and for what purpose(s).

    @prenooz

  • http://prenooz.tumblr.com/ Vyktureous

    The article fails to address whether they are simply using the contest as a ploy to quickly amass a vast email addresses library and for what purpose(s).

    @prenooz

    • http://twitter.com/zerosaves @zerosaves

      As it says above and also in the app description, they do not ask for an e-mail. The only thing their app can record is what OS version number, model, and carrier etc etc, most likely the same info Metrix can record.

    • http://cloudgenki.com cloudgenki

      @Vyktureous We understand your concern & no, we are not collecting any information about users at all, we only use their device ID which all developers have access to so that we may associate their entry with their device. So more directly we are not using this promotion as a ploy to collect any user information whatsoever and we have no way to do so with the unique way we've designed the application.

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  • http://twitter.com/cloudgenki @cloudgenki

    We've declared today "Twitter Day" (yeah our creative naming skills need improvement) & for today only you'll get 50 additional entries for your first tweet when you use the new Tweet button in One Year Free. You'll also get 10 extra entries, up to an unlimited amount, when anyone downloads the app from your One Year Free generated Tweet links.

  • http://twitter.com/cloudgenki @cloudgenki

    We've declared today "Twitter Day" (yeah our creative naming skills need improvement) & for today only you'll get 50 additional entries for your first tweet when you use the new Tweet button in One Year Free. You'll also get 10 extra entries, up to an unlimited amount, when anyone downloads the app from your One Year Free generated Tweet links.

  • http://twitter.com/cloudgenki @cloudgenki

    We've declared today "Twitter Day" (yeah our creative naming skills need improvement) & for today only you'll get 50 additional entries for your first tweet when you use the new Tweet button in One Year Free. You'll also get 10 extra entries, up to an unlimited amount, when anyone downloads the app from your One Year Free generated Tweet links.

  • http://twitter.com/cloudgenki @cloudgenki

    Last day to enter everyone & we're giving 10 to 100 extra entries whenever you can get a friend to download the app from your app generated links. We've also added a survey to the app which we'll give 25 extra entries to anyone who takes the time to fill out, letting us know how we can improve for the next time we do this.

    If anyone has any feedback for us please let us know, we'd love to hear it since we plan to do more of these.

  • http://twitter.com/cloudgenki @cloudgenki

    Last day to enter everyone & we're giving 10 to 100 extra entries whenever you can get a friend to download the app from your app generated links. We've also added a survey to the app which we'll give 25 extra entries to anyone who takes the time to fill out, letting us know how we can improve for the next time we do this.

    If anyone has any feedback for us please let us know, we'd love to hear it since we plan to do more of these.

  • http://twitter.com/cloudgenki @cloudgenki

    Last day to enter everyone & we're giving 10 to 100 extra entries whenever you can get a friend to download the app from your app generated links. We've also added a survey to the app which we'll give 25 extra entries to anyone who takes the time to fill out, letting us know how we can improve for the next time we do this.

    If anyone has any feedback for us please let us know, we'd love to hear it since we plan to do more of these.

  • http://twitter.com/cloudgenki @cloudgenki

    Last day to enter everyone & we're giving 10 to 100 extra entries whenever you can get a friend to download the app from your app generated links. We've also added a survey to the app which we'll give 25 extra entries to anyone who takes the time to fill out, letting us know how we can improve for the next time we do this.

    If anyone has any feedback for us please let us know, we'd love to hear it since we plan to do more of these.

  • bad idea

    webOS Roundup really hurt their credibility by endorsing this farce. among other things, the winner has to open the app and notice they’ve won within 5 days… most probably deleted it after opening it the first time. I’ll betcha no prize is ever paid.

    and the app didn’t even get on the “honorable mention” list for a certificate at hp.com so this is a trainwreck all the way around.

    @webosroundup, what were you thinking?

  • Andew

    It would be cool if it was available for Canada.