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Why webOS 2.0 Should Have Rivals Shaking in Their Boots

By: , 9/2/2010 11:57 am | 30 comments

If you are reading this blog entry, then it is highly likely that you already agree with us that webOS is really the best mobile OS on the market. You’re probably already really excited about webOS 2.0 coming out soon.

There has already been a lot of buzz about webOS 2.0 on major tech websites like Engadget and Gizmodo. But let’s say you are a rival company to Palm, like Apple, Google, or RIM. Should you be worried about webOS 2.0?

PCWorld makes that exact point. Now that the webOS 2.0 SDK has been released to developers, new HP/Palm hardware cannot be too far behind.

Suffice it to say there are some unique features that bring some pizazz to WebOS 2.0, but none of the details for the new WebOS suggest that there is anything groundbreaking about it as a mobile OS. [ed. Is that because webOS 1.0 already had those groundbreaking features, e.g. Card-based multitasking?] So, should Apple, Google, RIM, or Microsoft even pay attention to WebOS? Rivals don’t need to be concerned about WebOS in and of itself, but the combination of WebOS with the marketing and distribution power of HP is another story.

Ding Ding Ding! Absolutely correct. webOS 2.0 looks to be a great OS, but if Palm were to release it only with the power they released the original Pre and webOS, then webOS may very well go away as a non-player in the mobile marketplace. Add in HP’s money and power for hardware development and marketing, and now webOS becomes a real force that has the potential to really excel.

Now, WebOS has a second chance–and this time it has the marketing credibility and established sales and distribution channels of HP on its side. An excellent technology with poor marketing is doomed. A poor technology with excellent marketing can succeed. An innovative technology with superior marketing is virtually guaranteed.

Seriously, we can’t agree more with that statement. webOS is very innovative, and now it has the marketing power of one of (if not the) largest technology companies in the world to back it up.

Smartphone competitors are not the only ones who should be worrying. Anyone who hopes to bring a tablet to market better be looking out for HP and Palm. It’s obvious that the current leader in the tablet market is the Apple iPad, and HP is going to have to work hard at trying to unseat it as the top-selling tablet, but they definitely have a shot at being a major player.

Even more than competing smartphones, rival tablet platforms should keep an eye on WebOS 2.0. HP has already revealed that a WebOS tablet is being developed, and the elements of WebOS that make it such a solid mobile OS for smartphones will make it an even better mobile OS for tablets. A WebOS tablet–especially a WebOS tablet with an HP brand and marketing budget–will be a formidable challenger for the iPad and the emerging stable of Android tablets.

The new marriage between Palm and HP is still in the early honeymoon stages, but we are already starting to see more and more of the great things to come. Put webOS 2.0 on some killer hardware, and have HP market the heck out of it, and the rest of the mobile world will stand up and take notice. We’re excited for the future of webOS, and are glad to start seeing it be given the respect it is due.

[Source: PCWorld]

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  • http://prenooz.tumblr.com/ Vyktur

    Let's put things into perspective.
    Apple deserves credit for catapulting the smart-phone business, period. However, the iPhone's popularity is more about the iTunes and app store ecosystem and its cool factor then anything else. The aforementioned, includes it presently seeming to have a marginal OS and UI which is due to increased competition and innovation by webOS, and Android advances.
    Android, has found it's own niche without selling music, video, eBook,and such. This is because Google didn't try to be Apple: Google developed a strategy of providing integration with everything they offer in their "Free" catalog. In other words, Google developed it own ecosystem by tapping into what it already offered online into its Android OS users.
    This leaves us with webOS which may be the best of the three (iOS, Android, webOS) smart-phone OS', in my humble opinion (and, I currently own an iPhone 4.) However, if HP-Palm fails to develop its own ecosystem that will draw customers and show them that without a webOS device they are missing out on something big, webOS will go nowhere.
    In essence, Apple's iTunes and App Store, and Google's integration of its online offerings act as "web syncing portals."
    Simply put, HP-Palm will stagnate if it doesn't provide users a syncing portal for their phones to compete with what it is that customers want with mobile devices; more integration with everything they do in their lives. And,no, printers are not going to get people to buy webOS mobile devices.
    The answer maybe to take what's best from both ecosystems/business models. For instance, provide an iTunes lite "like" version for syncing your phone's music, video, and eBooks and such, so that they can not only be used on your computing devices, but also stored when you want to free up space on your mobile device.
    In addition, webOS' strongest feature, Multi-tasking, providing integration with everything possible. This means, designing a portal that from the home page a user can easily open app cards and use them on your other computing devices. Imagine connecting your mobile device to your home computer then opening up a "webOSync" window where you could manage everything with the multi-tasking capabilities of webOS: listen to your music app while reading your Yahoo email from the app/card, you can open another email app/card, let's say Gmail, client and copy and paste information cross email platforms. At the same time, attach photos downloaded from your phone or on your computer to the email and send. This portal might not be necessary for other webOS devices but more people have Microsoft Windows and a growing number are using Apple OS X at home. Lastly, this webOS portal can also provide online surfing through its browser app/card so that you could copy and paste straight from any website onto any app/card.
    I hope someone at HP-Palm reads my suggestions, researches and develops an ecosystem that no one else provides becoming a game changer.

    Do you think webOS can survive and surpass Apple's iPhone and iPad sales without its own ecosystem?

  • http://prenooz.tumblr.com/ Vyktur

    Let's put things into perspective.
    Apple deserves credit for catapulting the smart-phone business, period. However, the iPhone's popularity is more about the iTunes and app store ecosystem and its cool factor then anything else. The aforementioned, includes it presently seeming to have a marginal OS and UI which is due to increased competition and innovation by webOS, and Android advances.
    Android, has found it's own niche without selling music, video, eBook,and such. This is because Google didn't try to be Apple: Google developed a strategy of providing integration with everything they offer in their "Free" catalog. In other words, Google developed it own ecosystem by tapping into what it already offered online into its Android OS users.
    This leaves us with webOS which may be the best of the three (iOS, Android, webOS) smart-phone OS', in my humble opinion (and, I currently own an iPhone 4.) However, if HP-Palm fails to develop its own ecosystem that will draw customers and show them that without a webOS device they are missing out on something big, webOS will go nowhere.
    In essence, Apple's iTunes and App Store, and Google's integration of its online offerings act as "web syncing portals."
    Simply put, HP-Palm will stagnate if it doesn't provide users a syncing portal for their phones to compete with what it is that customers want with mobile devices; more integration with everything they do in their lives. And,no, printers are not going to get people to buy webOS mobile devices.
    The answer maybe to take what's best from both ecosystems/business models. For instance, provide an iTunes lite "like" version for syncing your phone's music, video, and eBooks and such, so that they can not only be used on your computing devices, but also stored when you want to free up space on your mobile device.
    In addition, webOS' strongest feature, Multi-tasking, providing integration with everything possible. This means, designing a portal that from the home page a user can easily open app cards and use them on your other computing devices. Imagine connecting your mobile device to your home computer then opening up a "webOSync" window where you could manage everything with the multi-tasking capabilities of webOS: listen to your music app while reading your Yahoo email from the app/card, you can open another email app/card, let's say Gmail, client and copy and paste information cross email platforms. At the same time, attach photos downloaded from your phone or on your computer to the email and send. This portal might not be necessary for other webOS devices but more people have Microsoft Windows and a growing number are using Apple OS X at home. Lastly, this webOS portal can also provide online surfing through its browser app/card so that you could copy and paste straight from any website onto any app/card.
    I hope someone at HP-Palm reads my suggestions, researches and develops an ecosystem that no one else provides becoming a game changer.

    Do you think webOS can survive and surpass Apple's iPhone and iPad sales without its own ecosystem?

    • blaze0023

      … *slowly starts applauding* …

    • http://anotherguy.us/ Tim Stiffler-Dean

      these are fantastic suggestions and really show the potential of having an adaptable ecosystem for various communities and enterprise users to connect into. Great stuff!

    • Bp1001P

      Good points, but what will happen when Apples gets rid of itunes computer version and launches a cloud version? Apple will sync with wifi or 3g and wil probably block companies like double twist etc from syncins their music to itunes web version

    • Bp1001P

      Good points, but what will happen when Apples gets rid of itunes computer version and launches a cloud version? Apple will sync with wifi or 3g and wil probably block companies like double twist etc from syncins their music to itunes web version

  • http://prenooz.tumblr.com/ Vyktur

    Let's put things into perspective.
    Apple deserves credit for catapulting the smart-phone business, period. However, the iPhone's popularity is more about the iTunes and app store ecosystem and its cool factor then anything else. The aforementioned, includes it presently seeming to have a marginal OS and UI which is due to increased competition and innovation by webOS, and Android advances.
    Android, has found it's own niche without selling music, video, eBook,and such. This is because Google didn't try to be Apple: Google developed a strategy of providing integration with everything they offer in their "Free" catalog. In other words, Google developed it own ecosystem by tapping into what it already offered online into its Android OS users.
    This leaves us with webOS which may be the best of the three (iOS, Android, webOS) smart-phone OS', in my humble opinion (and, I currently own an iPhone 4.) However, if HP-Palm fails to develop its own ecosystem that will draw customers and show them that without a webOS device they are missing out on something big, webOS will go nowhere.
    In essence, Apple's iTunes and App Store, and Google's integration of its online offerings act as "web syncing portals."
    Simply put, HP-Palm will stagnate if it doesn't provide users a syncing portal for their phones to compete with what it is that customers want with mobile devices; more integration with everything they do in their lives. And,no, printers are not going to get people to buy webOS mobile devices.
    The answer maybe to take what's best from both ecosystems/business models. For instance, provide an iTunes lite "like" version for syncing your phone's music, video, and eBooks and such, so that they can not only be used on your computing devices, but also stored when you want to free up space on your mobile device.
    In addition, webOS' strongest feature, Multi-tasking, providing integration with everything possible. This means, designing a portal that from the home page a user can easily open app cards and use them on your other computing devices. Imagine connecting your mobile device to your home computer then opening up a "webOSync" window where you could manage everything with the multi-tasking capabilities of webOS: listen to your music app while reading your Yahoo email from the app/card, you can open another email app/card, let's say Gmail, client and copy and paste information cross email platforms. At the same time, attach photos downloaded from your phone or on your computer to the email and send. This portal might not be necessary for other webOS devices but more people have Microsoft Windows and a growing number are using Apple OS X at home. Lastly, this webOS portal can also provide online surfing through its browser app/card so that you could copy and paste straight from any website onto any app/card.
    I hope someone at HP-Palm reads my suggestions, researches and develops an ecosystem that no one else provides becoming a game changer.

    Do you think webOS can survive and surpass Apple's iPhone and iPad sales without its own ecosystem?

    • blaze0023

      … *slowly starts applauding* …

    • http://anotherguy.us/ Tim Stiffler-Dean

      these are fantastic suggestions and really show the potential of having an adaptable ecosystem for various communities and enterprise users to connect into. Great stuff!

    • Bp1001P

      Good points, but what will happen when Apples gets rid of itunes computer version and launches a cloud version? Apple will sync with wifi or 3g and wil probably block companies like double twist etc from syncins their music to itunes web version

  • clutch1222

    agreed. HP scale and $$$$ will make the difference this time around.

    I created a thread in P|C forums about HP palm potential back on 6/22… It’s interesting to see peoples views on HP palm potential back in june… And start to see PALM’s work start trickling out…. 2 months after HP aquisition

  • clutch1222

    agreed. HP scale and $$$$ will make the difference this time around.

    I created a thread in P|C forums about HP palm potential back on 6/22… It’s interesting to see peoples views on HP palm potential back in june… And start to see PALM’s work start trickling out…. 2 months after HP aquisition

  • clutch1222

    agreed. HP scale and $$$$ will make the difference this time around.

    I created a thread in P|C forums about HP palm potential back on 6/22… It’s interesting to see peoples views on HP palm potential back in june… And start to see PALM’s work start trickling out…. 2 months after HP aquisition

  • http://twitter.com/cheekydru @cheekydru

    Doubly agreed. Especially when open source or open api solutions are rampant but under organized or just underdeveloped. Desktop syncs abound but are unnecessarily pricey and lack the usefulness of cloud solutions. What we need is Synergy beyond just our phone!!!

  • http://twitter.com/cheekydru @cheekydru

    Doubly agreed. Especially when open source or open api solutions are rampant but under organized or just underdeveloped. Desktop syncs abound but are unnecessarily pricey and lack the usefulness of cloud solutions. What we need is Synergy beyond just our phone!!!

  • http://twitter.com/cheekydru @cheekydru

    Doubly agreed. Especially when open source or open api solutions are rampant but under organized or just underdeveloped. Desktop syncs abound but are unnecessarily pricey and lack the usefulness of cloud solutions. What we need is Synergy beyond just our phone!!!

  • James

    how soon is 2.0 supposed to be out?

  • James

    how soon is 2.0 supposed to be out?

  • James

    how soon is 2.0 supposed to be out?

  • clutch1222

    I think HP will offer dual OS option to tablets / laptops.
    they currently offer quick web. Laptop boots into quick web… Then you can launch win7 from within quick boot. They may replace quick web with webOS… And you can launch win7 for a full desktop OS experience on a tablet/ Slate.

    apple looking to do the same…
    http://bit.ly/b28OSA

  • clutch1222

    I think HP will offer dual OS option to tablets / laptops.
    they currently offer quick web. Laptop boots into quick web… Then you can launch win7 from within quick boot. They may replace quick web with webOS… And you can launch win7 for a full desktop OS experience on a tablet/ Slate.

    apple looking to do the same…
    http://bit.ly/b28OSA

  • clutch1222

    I think HP will offer dual OS option to tablets / laptops.
    they currently offer quick web. Laptop boots into quick web… Then you can launch win7 from within quick boot. They may replace quick web with webOS… And you can launch win7 for a full desktop OS experience on a tablet/ Slate.

    apple looking to do the same…
    http://bit.ly/b28OSA

  • http://twitter.com/TeckieGirl @TeckieGirl

    i love reading the comments…we are about the kick major butt. I am getting excited again. But unlike the past times, its for real. :)

  • http://twitter.com/TeckieGirl @TeckieGirl

    i love reading the comments…we are about the kick major butt. I am getting excited again. But unlike the past times, its for real. :)

  • http://twitter.com/TeckieGirl @TeckieGirl

    i love reading the comments…we are about the kick major butt. I am getting excited again. But unlike the past times, its for real. :)

  • Jpartain89

    Thanks for the info, I didn’t realize there was another app that synced with GR. I just prefer being able to have my RSS in multiple places

  • Jpartain89

    Thanks for the info, I didn’t realize there was another app that synced with GR. I just prefer being able to have my RSS in multiple places

  • Jpartain89

    Thanks for the info, I didn’t realize there was another app that synced with GR. I just prefer being able to have my RSS in multiple places

  • Jeremy

    Thing Palm is missing is a good icon…I mean the word PALM over and over and over again is ok but waht people can remember easily is icons. Apple with the apple, Andriod with the bot, Google has a square with a small g, MS with a Windows logo. We need a good icon/logo revamp.

  • Jeremy

    Thing Palm is missing is a good icon…I mean the word PALM over and over and over again is ok but waht people can remember easily is icons. Apple with the apple, Andriod with the bot, Google has a square with a small g, MS with a Windows logo. We need a good icon/logo revamp.