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Making the Case: Why HP isn’t allowing OTA updates (and why we think it’s a good thing)

By: , 2/10/2011 1:56 pm | 437 comments

Yesterday, HP let it be known that they will not be providing an OTA update to older Pre, Pixi, and Plus models to allow them to upgrade to 2.0 (although there may be a webOS Doctor option in the future).

Why God Why?!

After speaking to HP directly about this decision we learned that HP debated on this for 2 months before coming to this decision. Their reasons were thus:

  1. Evolving hardware made it possible to do things in software that the first gen Pres and Pixis simply couldn’t handle.
  2. They had to change webOS to provide parity between phones, tablets, and a whole host of other form factors (something old webOS builds were not built for). HP decided rather than hamper these improvements by trying to obtain backwards compatibility, they thought this was their best decision moving forward.
  3. [Warning: Tech Speak Coming] The OTA update is difficult because the OS has grown larger and they would likely need to repartition the device, causing a wipe of the media partition, and you can’t do that OTA if you want happy customers. This is why the webOS Doctor idea may end up being the better solution for those who do want 2.x on their older devices, but isn’t something the average Joe would do.

They told us they did not want to alienate the webOS community and will try to soften the blow to users by various means [Ed: upgrade voucher program?], but as this is the “rebirth” of webOS, they had to act as though they were starting from square one. A lot of the folks who made these decisions were from Palm (they operate as their own unit), so despite what some jaded folks say, this was a tough decision to make.

The Aftermath

Regardless of the reasons, once this info was unveiled a firestorm erupted in all the webOS fan sites and several tech sites (ours included). Just about every article we posted was clogged with HP BETRAYED US!!! comments… or some other nonsensical statements.

Now you know we love all of our readers and fans, but it is time for a bit of tough love, people:

Suck it up and stop whining.

There. I said it. You are now free to throw your fireballs in the comments, close your browser in disgust, or unsubscribe from our feed…do whatcha gotta do.

Still here? Good. Here is why we believe that cutting the old models off from the latest OTAs is actually very good for webOS.

Phones have a lifespan

Name any modern smartphone that has been released in the last say, four years. How long was it sold? My educated guess is that just about all of them were around for two years or less. Phone contracts reflect this as well. The whole industry revolves in a two year (or less) cycle.

So with that said, why would any company, HP included, spend their resources to make their latest updates work on hardware that is already EOL (end of life) or just about to be?

Phones have limits

There are a lot of people wailing and gnashing their teeth saying that if they can’t get their original Pres (and Pre+) to upgrade to webOS 2.0 and beyond that they are “DONE with HP and hope they rot in the deepest pit of hell!” … Really?

Let’s be really honest here: the original Pre had a tough time running webOS 1.0 a lot of time. I mean seriously, how many of you wailing have overclocked your phone to the point of melting, just to get it to run smoothly?

webOS 2.0 (and above) takes the graphical goodies and other stuff that takes a lot of horsepower and pushes it up to another level. Think of stacks for a second. The entire point of that functionality is to allow people to run so many apps at one time that they need to group them together. Is that really necessary when your original Pre chokes after five apps?

You wouldn’t ask your mom’s old Pentium computer to run Windows 7 would you?

Software needs to stay lean

The basic truth about OS and other software development is that if they don’t cut ties with older versions at some point they get bloated and start to limit functionality.

Look at Internet Explorer for a moment. Back in the day, IE had a ton of proprietary stuff that allowed people to build websites that did cool things they couldn’t do in Netscape and other competitors of the time. Fast forward a bit and Firefox and Chrome emerge, offering great user experiences and begin to chip away from IE’s dominance. Despite their best efforts, IE could not keep up because it had an obligation to remain compatible to these older versions…it wasn’t until they finally cut that baggage that they have been able to truly compete again.

If an OS is required to keep working on hardware several generations back, then it limits what it can do in the future. For instance, imagine that the webOS devs come up with an idea that would be a major advantage to the OS, but to do it would require a massive change to how things fundamentally work. If the devs were mandated to keep things working on older models then they would not be able to move forward with this great new idea. It is just a guess, but I bet that JustType falls into this category.

Is that what we want? An OS that is hamstrung because we want our 2 and 3 year old phones to “get the latest and greatest”? I know I can answer that an emphatic no. I want webOS to blow other mobile frameworks out of the water, and I bet that, deep down, even the whiners want that as well.

Bottom Line

If you frequent this site a lot, you probably are what we affectionately call a Geek. As such, it is my guess that when your two year contract is up for your phone that you will be feverish to get a new device rather than keep something that is out of date and can’t do all the coolest stuff.

With that being said, why all the uproar? Yesterday HP showed you the options you will have when that contract is up. They have shown you the awesomeness of what those new devices will have. It is pretty cool stuff. Stuff that wouldn’t have been possible had they been required to keep infinite backwards compatibility.

Could it have been handled better?

Maybe, yeah. When iOS 4 was announced Apple let everyone know right away that some devices wouldn’t be allowed to use the new version. People complained a bit, but it wasn’t a huge deal. When webOS 2 was announced HP said they wanted to give it to the older devices. They never actually said “Yes, it will be available X”, but it was a pretty good assumption. So now people feel as though they have been lied to and betrayed, and the wailing began.

I think when 2.0 was announced HP/Palm really did intend to release it out to the old devices, but at some point they had to change their plans. So the next time they got everyone’s attention (i.e. yesterday), they admitted that the plans had indeed changed and here we are…

So there you have it – my argument for why it is actually a good thing that HP isn’t allowing an OTA update to 2.0 and beyond. I have my fireproof suit on because I am sure that you have your own opinions. All I ask is that you keep them family friendly and as constructive as possible.

So… dare I ask… what do you think?

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About David Baxter

David is the founder and Editor-in-Chief of webOSroundup. When not toiling away at WOR he is usually with his family, at church, building a website of some kind or another, or playing a video game. @davidbbaxter
  • http://anothersunnydayinhell.wordpress.com/ Nicholai

    I think as long as they release it for our older device at some point it will all be fine. No matter what method they use. WebOS Doctor wouldn’t be the worst way to go about things. Realistically though this kind of sucks. I just got my Pixi Plus 2 months ago.

  • BadBoyBri

    David, I COMPLETELY disagree with you!! Why do we have to be “whining”, just because we are not satisfied with our service?! Are we just supposed to sit here and accept ANYTHING?! Remember, We Are Customers!! We are spending our Hard Earned money! Nothing here is for free!! So if we’re spendin’, then we have earned the RIGHT to get what we want!! webOS would be NOTHING if it weren’t for us Sprint Pre (minus) customers, and we deserve BETTER! We paid our for our Pres, we paid our Sprint bills, and we kept webOS Hope Alive!! We’ve been lied to about ALOT of things, and if we were to just pack up and go to Android, webOS would be No More!! HP needs to Do Right by us, and if You or anybody else doesn’t like us complaining about Bad Service, maybe YOU need to leave!!

  • BadBoyBri

    David, I COMPLETELY disagree with you!! Why do we have to be “whining”, just because we are not satisfied with our service?! Are we just supposed to sit here and accept ANYTHING?! Remember, We Are Customers!! We are spending our Hard Earned money! Nothing here is for free!! So if we’re spendin’, then we have earned the RIGHT to get what we want!! webOS would be NOTHING if it weren’t for us Sprint Pre (minus) customers, and we deserve BETTER! We paid our for our Pres, we paid our Sprint bills, and we kept webOS Hope Alive!! We’ve been lied to about ALOT of things, and if we were to just pack up and go to Android, webOS would be No More!! HP needs to Do Right by us, and if You or anybody else doesn’t like us complaining about Bad Service, maybe YOU need to leave!!

  • Chia

    there might be chance to see a customised webos2 for pre/pixi plus in the future. But that might also mean to a torn down usability.

  • http://twitter.com/time_wasters jason lee

    Just to chime in here, the reason for my personal displeasure is the lying in the press release about webOS 2.0 coming to older handsets. On an emotional front, also that I supported webOS from day 1, just to be given a substandard product fueled by hopes, dreams, and homebrew.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-Schechter/1078740388 Jason Schechter

      LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES…Does HP have any integrity at all? Flash guaranteed (even before Android)…It was supposed to work with 1.4.5. Now it’s NEVER coming to legacy devices. (Apple Fan Boys laughing their asses off) Pre 2 not released until months after it should’ve been (now a total waste of inferior technology). The new phones won’t be released til Months (NOT WEEKS) after the announcement. Nothing announced as far as pricing on these new phones nor carriers. Now they say the will do “Something Special” for legacy users. Like what getting us tied into another 2 year contract so they have bull$hit us and string us along for years to come or as they say in the months ahead. Who has any trust in this company (or even that it will even survive against products much more established)?

  • SantaCruise

    Even though i agree with you on the general statement of your article. I also have to say, i got my Pre Plus day one when it was released by o2 Germany. End of April 2010 that was. So 2-3 year old phone doesnt apply here.

    Anyways i like my Pre Plus (even though its slow) and its still in a good condition.
    I consider giving the Pre³ a try if they launch it on a wide scale and have developers releasing all the necessary apps for Enyo.

  • rory

    I would also be happy with this news, if HP had just sent me a free server.. its the fact they lied, if it the reason that webos would not work on older phones, why wait till the 8th and remove the “webos2 commign soon” to the old phones!! Did they not test it out on the old phones? This is my version of the hp reply on plam blog

    Bull, no way, you guys suck, I cannot believe I saying this about a company that I had so high hopes for.

    “But ultimately it became clear” on the 8th of February when we took the webos2 coming to palm pre down from the website, that we ” choose” not to ” supporting the past with over-the-air updates and ensuring that our upcoming devices would live up to your hopes and expectations for them.” “This was” NOT “ a difficult and, frankly, painful decision for us, and we realize it was a frustrating outcome for many of you” so we tried to hide it by showing you the what’s coming next carrot .

    So the engineering team came up with this conclusion on the 8th of February! Don’t think so, more lies. Was it not tested in the first place. If so, god help HP!
    I am still devastated of my realisation of this company!
    Such a bad dayweek

  • Whodunit

    I’ll be happy as soon as I hear that Sprint will be carrying the Pre 3 or the Veer or both. “Think big, think small…” I think us Sprint users are being left out! Please say it isn’t so! I love Sprint and I love WebOS! I WANT MY PRE 3!!!

  • Alex

    The point that makes me angry is, that my 3/4 year old Pixi had just one update and I guess will never get a new one. Ah, I know, there are no more bugs in WebOS 1.4.5. In fact the bug list is very long and many not so big features (i.e. support for more media formats, upnp/dlna,…) do not come. For me small steps would be sufficient. My wife is laughing at me when she gets a new update for her 2 years old Nokia handy every 3 months. But sure, HP will do things right in the future, a promise!

  • Anonymous

    To me, all the principles that were put into WebOS creation by Palm have, along with the Palm name, died with the new OS that HP calls WebOS. Principles like actually caring about the people who use their devices, creating intuitive UI (did anyone else realize gesture areas are now gone from WebOS 3.0 devices?), wonderful ecosystem of developers and users.

    I love WebOS, I have a launch Pre while my coworkers have Epic 4G’s, and I have never envied them because I know my phone is better. I have been patiently waiting for the next iteration to come to Sprint (I have had a Premier upgrade waiting for 8 months), but there is still no word on any of the new phones coming to Sprint or when?

    I just want some “actual” assurance that I will be able to get a device, and that my apps will be usable in the future versions of the OS. And a free Sprint Palm Pre 2 to be released on the 1st of March would be nice step towards getting us our upgrade to WebOS 2.0.

  • KMac

    Same hook different bait, I really hope it works out for you guys this time. Why curse the darkness/HP when you can light a candle/get a different phone, tablet.

  • Aj

    My pixi plis is 4 months old… So…

    • KMac

      My pixi is 4 weeks old…I feel your pain

      • http://twitter.com/EMFpotential Ezra M. Fortune

        I can dig it. Unfortunately the tech in them is over a year old. Hopefully we’ll get a voucher or some other deal sweetener to upgrade.

  • KMac

    I have a feeling that we are seeing the last open source OS for phones die. No more tweaks from geeks but from 9 to 5 programmers under HP’s watchful eye in the name of security. Who can brick your phone from afar. Face it Apple’s OS is a real money maker. Why did Doc to Go pull out yea I read the official response, I did find them at the Apple App store. HP is big business that wants to sell to big business, look at the OS on your phone now would an IT person from Fortune 500 company let that on his system I don’t know I’m not an IT person but I’m thinking not. I feel you will get your new hpOS locked down as tight if tighter than iOS and all you have to do to prove me wrong is wait a little longer. I said it before webOS/Palm is dead.

  • Scotland

    This situation with with the OTA updates is tough – HP definitely could have handled it better. It almost seems like they didn’t expect the question (on what the upgrade path would be for “legacy” device users) so they didn’t have their fallback/alternative plan already in place. We’ll have to see what they come up with. It would be nice if HP could ensure Pre2 is on all carriers that currently carry webOS and give a significant discount on a no-contract upgrade – I see that as one of the few real options.

    Overall, I had mixed feelings about the webOS announcements on 9 Feb:
    -HP finally announced new devices!! However, the one device that is available soon (Veer) is the one that most people are not interested in. Pre3 and the Tablet are 5-8 months away.
    -The specs on the new devices are competitive (for now!) But will they be when they are finally available?
    -The Touchpad looks great (finally, webOS on a tablet!!) However, the gesture area is gone.
    -The Pre3 gives the many Pre users who clamored for a bigger screen, larger keyboard and faster processor what they asked for. However, it doesn’t have expandable memory (What? No, micro SDHC/SXHC?), only has 16 GB of storage max, and doesn’t have an HDMI port.
    -Enyo is an exciting framework that will make webOS development across multiple devices easy – however, only Pre2 is currently on webOS 2.x that supports it so current developers are in a no-mans-land until new devices are launched.

    About the only good news to come out of the announcements, was that HP clearly is investing in the long term health of webOS. The switch to Enyo and webOS 3.0 is not going to be easy in the short run – it’s clearly a play for the mobile market in the 2nd half of 2011 and, realistically, 2012. Hopefully, HP has a lot more in the pipeline – the only way they can catch Apple and Google and establish webOS as one of the long-term winners in the mobile OS space is by developing lots of devices on an aggressive schedule. HP has to start developing the Touchpad2 and Pre4 now and release them within 6 months of the Pre3/Touchpad release. A slab phone and horizontal sliders would also be welcome since many folks want those form factors. If HP really wants to catch up in mobile, then they have to take a cover the earth strategy when it comes to devices, pay developers to support webOS, and discount the prices of their devices to end-users.

    Right now – HP, Microsoft and RIMM are all in a fight to be relevant and be number 3 in the mobile space. Nokia appears to have thrown their lot in with Microsoft so they are now out of the race (Meego has been cut off at the knees). HP has a tough fight on their hands.

  • Bryan Morales

    It’s ok, I just wanna see the Pre 3 by late summer on Sprint so I can continue being a Web OS user. Because their is nothing out their like Web OS. And till this day many people don’t know what Web OS is and can do. They are to blowen away by the Androi phone, like my roommate has an Evo 4g :/, buts cool. He can’t multitakes like I can on my Pre :)

  • Bryan Morales

    It’s ok, I just wanna see the Pre 3 by late summer on Sprint so I can continue being a Web OS user. Because their is nothing out their like Web OS. And till this day many people don’t know what Web OS is and can do. They are to blowen away by the Androi phone, like my roommate has an Evo 4g :/, buts cool. He can’t multitakes like I can on my Pre :)

  • Bryan Morales

    It’s ok, I just wanna see the Pre 3 by late summer on Sprint so I can continue being a Web OS user. Because their is nothing out their like Web OS. And till this day many people don’t know what Web OS is and can do. They are to blowen away by the Androi phone, like my roommate has an Evo 4g :/, buts cool. He can’t multitakes like I can on my Pre :)

  • NOW

    I’ve had the O.G. Pre since launch date. I’m a loyal user and love the WebOS. I’ve been waiting, waiting and waiting and now get the news of the Pre 3 and no OTA update for old Pre phones. We don’t even know if Pre 3 is gonna be on Sprint! This is what I get for my loyalty and patiences. I love WebOs but hate HP, all of this is a big middle finger in my face and I’m sick of it. I’m outta of here, Evo here I come. Maybe if HP get their act together I’ll be back in a year. If Sprint gets any new (slab) WebOs phone, until then HP can go to hell. Treat your customers with a little more respect!

  • LilVixen

    *grins* how about a positive comment on this post? Lol. I’m a little bummed since I’ve only had my Pre Plus for a few months, BUT come on, how many of the “rude, insolent gripers” REALLY plan on keeping the phone in your hand longer than a year? 90% of the “techno-gadget” population either trades, switches to another brand, and/or upgrades to the next new thing. So really. Come on. If HP is so shitty, then how about yall band together, throw in whatever money YOU can come up with, and design the OS your way-AND manage to “break even” each fiscal year, let alone profit at all. The point is, is most of you can’t. Hush.

    • Inducedaphonia

      The above comment is completely bereft of substance.

      • Abaddon

        I second that.

        but wait… If we all complain about wars in the world, why don’t we rule the world stop wars and stop complaining!!!

        ¬¬’

  • Brother Al

    Xyz

  • Inducedaphonia

    The bottom line is that you probably have a pre 2 that you got for free from palm and IF that is the case then this article makes you an asshole or a two bit cheap whore, take your pick

    • JMWPainter

      Are gonna run to your mommy. Are you gonna tell on him? Come on, Grow Up. It is a freakin phone. Unless anyone paid extra for WebOS 2.0 on their Pre+/- then I don’t know why you have to be so rude. I teach elementary and this is much worse, the way everyone is acting. “He hit me!” “You’re a poopy head.” “You’re not my friend anymore!” If it has to be buy a freakin iPhone or Droid and leave the WebOS websites alone.

      • http://twitter.com/EMFpotential Ezra M. Fortune

        Yay JMWPainter. Thank you. I am absolutely with you. I can’t believe the childish reactions. The points in this article were balanced and very good. Regardless if the author has a Pre 2 or not, someday we all have to upgrade.

        These people want their broke-down Pre minuses (mi-ni?) to run webOS 2.x? Come on. One minute you need a brand new phone, now you’re mad your phone won’t run 2.x. I bought a Pre Plus on AT&T and by the time these phones come out it will be over a year old. If I can get some kind of upgrade voucher then that’s a great time to upgrade.

        Fact is, we’re starting from square one. Tech gets old. It needs to be replaced. Please, everyone, don’t bother replying in all caps or with over the top punctuation. I won’t read it anyways.

        • Inducedaphonia

          I am speaking to the author’s integrity (or more accurately, lack thereof). It’s easy to chastise those who are outraged at being betrayed when you haven’t been. Please don’t write an article about how you are in the same boat if you aren’t.

          In this case it is likely that the author was given preferential treatment while the rest of us were thrown under the bus. This isn’t why I’m upset though. I’m upset because he has the audacity to speak to the rest of us in condescension.

          Calling someone an asshole for being an asshole isn’t immature. Illuminating the obvious conflict of interest of the auther is proof of an exercise in critical thinking.

      • Inducedaphonia

        Wow, way to separate your home and work life.

      • Hpwhiner

        Hi david. TBH the article smells isheep like. We all love webos but you don’t have to go that low. We don’t need isheep in the community especially from well respected member like you.

        Sorry but just sayin’ the obvious..

      • Sayno2isheep

        WARNING : isheep-like behaviour detected

  • Inducedaphonia

    The bottom line is that you probably have a pre 2 that you got for free from palm and IF that is the case then this article makes you an asshole or a two bit cheap whore, take your pick

  • Brother Al

    You needed a Nuclear Bomb Shelter rather than a Firesuit…
    I went from incredibly excited on Wednesday, to sad on Thursday, & Angry today….
    This is HP Palm’s answer to it’s (ever-shrinking) Legion of Palm Devotees who’ve hung on?
    3 strikes rule:
    1. “Palm” name disappears.
    2. HP Palm website has Flash-based video…
    3. No Flash or WebOS 2.0 upgrade…..
    Could HP possibly try any harder to make the remaining WebOS owners anymore disheartened?
    Sprint users have made up the core of Palm Phone buyers since day 1, (long before Pre). Last year we watched as a new “Plus” version came out while Sprint rolled up the rug on re/Pixi…
    As said by others, We are stuck… we are left with no upgrade & no improvements to our “old software/hardware Pre”…
    As for whining… Damn right we will & should…. We have burned up our upgrade, hoping that Palm released something newer or at least gave us some more usable life out of our current Pre/Pixi. These phones were not cheap & it’s OTA ability was a selling point… I’ve been w/ Palm for a long time… I feel like I’ve been lied to & extorted by a longtime friend.
    Sprint availability may be out of their control, but the fact that they are seemingly abandoning
    us altogether really peeves me to no end. Yes, they do owe us for hanging on & supporting Palm & WebOS well past the point where many turned away.
    I will wait a little while longer to see if HP makes amends, but I dunno how long, April is not so far away…

  • Raun

    Flash video on the hp site announcing new webos devices? IncomPrētence³. I know the os is special, but you know what’s not? Phones with flash, mlb apps, sirius & slingplayers. It’s just too bad, and that’s why everyone is frustrated. This rebirth is more like afterbirth, and no matter what kind of spin you want to put on it, you can’t deny that the CEO is a bonehead of epic proportions for his comments two weeks ago. There will be many weeks of, “it was hard to do, but we learned our lesson.” And this will be bs that many will accept. I won’t go another summer with lousy battery life and no mlb, and I don’t pay a web subscription to sirius for nothing. It sucks, because I really love multi-tasking and pandora. However I also enjoy being able to turn volume up/down or actually hear the person on the other side of a call without pushing or shaking this phone. Leo is the one who has done it for me. When all the above appear in webos, and I’m assured the hardware is not only for real; but stable and working, I’ll probably be back, and by then, maybe Leo will be an afterthought. All I can think of is that Feb 9th was the day of rebirth, but it felt more like an abortion. Seriously, think about it.

  • Drock

    It’s still a lie from HP. Period.

  • http://linmob.blogspot.com EtlamRetep

    The problem is, that HPalm promised updates for these old devices.

    For GSM Pre users that are upset because their devices have been abandoned by HP and want to run different software, just have a look at SHR, a truly free and open source Linux distribution for Smartphones: http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/PalmPreInstall

    Besides that, the initial work done by the SHR guys could help w/ porting Android over to Pre, which should work just fine when adjusted (which would be a lot of work for one developer, but what are solutions like gitorious good for..) considering how well Android 2.3 “Gingerbread” on the out-dated G1. Imagine Android with gestures…

  • Bicentennial

    hi

  • Bicentennial

    use palm.xxx/webos-info to see if you are eligible for webos 2

  • Bicentennial

    they say your device is not able to support the new features of webos 2. */really i can use at least some features*/

    Therefore, your device will not receive webOS 2 update. */why HP told in couple of months, does this mean engineers doesn’t know what they are doing when they announced*/

    We are working on alternative plans with Sprint and will be sharing details in the coming weeks. */at least better than coming months :) */

  • Anonymous

    Quote “They never actually said “Yes, it will be available X”, but it was a pretty good assumption. So now people feel as though they have been lied to and betrayed, and the wailing began.

    Wrong, They did Several times!!

  • Anonymous

    Quote “They never actually said “Yes, it will be available X”, but it was a pretty good assumption. So now people feel as though they have been lied to and betrayed, and the wailing began.

    Wrong, They did Several times!!

  • Anonymous

    Quote “They never actually said “Yes, it will be available X”, but it was a pretty good assumption. So now people feel as though they have been lied to and betrayed, and the wailing began.

    Wrong, They did Several times!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/nfrisbie Nicholas Frisbie

    I bought my wife a Palm Pixi Plus a couple weeks ago on the word that it was going to get an upgrade to webOS 2.x and then all of the sudden they pulled there crap… No phones dont have a long life span but the difference being they are still selling them (look at AT&T) dropping support for a product that is still on the market is crap. So instead of going out and preordering a Pre 2 or waiting for Pre 3 for myself I went out and bought an iPhone 4 I have had my Pre Plus since launch on Verizon but that announcement pissed me off and instead of “whining” about it I got up and protested HP with my wallet by switching to Apple. I love the site but I will be moving on.

    • http://heywhatareyoudoing Cristian

      Hey I love my palm pre

  • http://twitter.com/Big_webOS George

    Its disappointing news, but its time to retire the Classic PRE. HP should try to at least get flash on PRE & Pixi Plus phones. That seems to be the biggest complaint.
    I was harsh on android for fragmentation… and not recommending based on it as 1 of factors. All though webOS does not suffer to the same extent, many feel robbed. HP is working on something special. I would wait to see what that is before doing something stupid like buying an android or ios device because of this ;) webOS is more than just the best mobile OS, It is on innovative HW, it is the future

  • Gary

    Though there is disappointment and some feeling of betrayal. I have no problem with the HP decision to move on. I personally believe that the hardware is ready to ship, but the new OS isn’t. I also believe that Enyo is part of the problem. It isn’t ready for prime-time and is still in alpha stage. The email app was the driving vehicle for this and it took a long time from proof-of-concept to this point. Many of the apps for the Touchpad are either prototypes or non-existing at all.

    If I were HP, I’d make it my top priority to get the Enyo SDK out to the developers ASAP backed by tutorials and documentation to cover the newbie through professional needs. Although I’m a professional programmer with a lot of experience and awards under my belt, I don’t have the background for mobile-app development. I’ve got a number of concepts for apps, but need something to help transition me towards this realm.

  • http://www.crazzilla.com Randholio

    Well, this might not seem like a big deal to some of the older owners, but myself I just got my pre. I’ve only had it for a few months now and the apps are going to trickle in at best, I have no updates to look forward to, and God only knows what kinda replacement phone I might get if this thing breaks. That’s my main hope right now since pre’s seem to be out of stock. Hopefully I can file a lost or stolen claim and get the new one when/if it comes to sprint. What would be the odds :(

  • Scip4

    This is also how we feel…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ9YqlmM8zw

    • Hpwhiner

      Thats hillarious! Make my day a lil’ bit better. Thanks

  • Hpwhiner

    Hi david. TBH the article smells isheep like. We all love webos but you don’t have to go that low. We don’t need isheep in the community especially from well respected member like you.

    Sorry but just sayin’ the obvious..

  • KMac

    Something for all of us to think about before our next post. If you try to one-up someone you run the risk of taking the jackass sign off them and hanging it around your own neck.

  • Darron

    You know, Nokia just screwed us Qt developers out of an entire platform and promises of a bright mobile future. Put into context, I’m not terribly upset my Pre Plus may be stuck on 1.4.5. HP’s got a war to fight, and they’re not exactly ahead at the moment. I’ll probably get a Pre3.

  • http://www.crazzilla.com Randholio

    Since they did promise an awful lot, is it not possible to offer flash at least from a separate source or something. No vaseline