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HP SVP Ari Jaaski Defends TouchPad: “Go and Judge Yourself!”

By: , 7/11/2011 12:48 pm | 95 comments

Former Nokia Meego VP and current SVP for webOS Software and Services Ari Jaaksi is blogging on HP’s progress with webOS thus far. His article, titled “7 First Months,” starts off by discussing HP’s progress thus far…

“We got the HP Veer out a month ago. A week ago, we started selling the HP TouchPad running webOS. I’m proud of the progress we’ve made. It is so important now to get products out and get webOS to developers and customers.”

He extolled the many redeeming qualities of having webOS on a tablet. He went on to add that the product is “very good already” but admitted “the work has only started and we still need to improve.” The most interesting part of his blog entry comes when he addresses reviewers’ criticisms point-by-point.

1) Lagginess, bugs

Amazingly, Mr. Jaaksi busts out with this… wait for it…

“Some reviewers are pushing the first hours of the TouchPad usage harder than we expected.”

According to Jaaksi, the problem was that many reviewers synced a ton of accounts and data while simultaneously trying to do other resource-intensive activities. He doesn’t hide behind this excuse too much, however, and closes by saying “We need to clearly improve the system performance especially when setting up new accounts and downloading a lot of data.”

Our take: Some of us find this defense a little hollow since our TouchPads still lag long after they’ve synced their data… others find his statements to be fair. Still, his words don’t exactly paint the TouchPad as the serious workhorse HP would make you believe it to be. Finally, are folks at HP that shocked that the TouchPad wasn’t buttery smooth? Any of these guys picked up an iPad? Thankfully, he admits there’s a problem and that HP needs to solve it.

2) Lack of Apps

Well, I see a steady stream of good quality applications. We started later so we need to work really hard with developers. This is also a reason why we wanted to get the TouchPad out as soon as possible. TouchPad needs applications, and developers need TouchPads. We are getting very encouraging messages from developers. I firmly believe webOS is a very good platform to develop apps.

Our take: We totally agree with Mr. Jaaksi here. While the TouchPad may have a relative dearth of apps out of the gate, it’s totally unreasonable to expect that it would have launched with very many. There are also many encouraging signs behind-the-scenes: HP is hiring more dev relations people, the device loaner program is in effect, software “SWAT” teams are growing, and changes have been implemented which hope to accelerate App Catalog growth.

3) The little things

In addition, there is a few embarrassing things. As an example our dictionary included “dont” and “wont” instead of ”don’t” and “won’t”. What can I say? Stupid. But hey, English is not my first language. Yeah, I agree, not good enough – and you need to add the missing words yourself.

Our take: Heh. We’ve met Mr. Jaaksi in person… he’s a very intelligent guy and while his English is actually quite good, we hope he’s not the one in charge of webOS 3.0′s autocorrect dictionary. One humble correction, Mr. Jaaksi: it’s not “judge yourself” … it’s “judge for yourself!”

 

Jaaksi closes by saying there’s “more good stuff coming” and encourages readers to go out to stores and draw their own conclusions after playing with the TouchPad. So? How many of you have “judged for yourselves?” Let us know what you think below.

[Source: Ari Jaaksi's blog]

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About Dan Ramirez

Dan is a senior editor at webOSroundup. He is a physician in South Texas with an unbridled passion for webOS. He is very active on Twitter (@vara411) and enjoys engaging the webOS community.
  • Matt_99_hey

    The point about lagginess, it is sort of a puzzle to have an OS that obviously has some real advantages, but what’s the reality of all the bullet points on paper? Yes, it multitasks but to what level of effectiveness? I always enjoy seeing the reviewers do the ‘How many cards will it take to crash the ****” because yes, wow the OS will allow you to open up a lot of cards, but real-life translation, how many cards can you actively run and participate in and have it not bog down? That’s a better test.

    Toting a multitasking machine is not the same as actually being one. And although Apple doesn’t not have a TRUE multitasking way of doing things (everyone who’s a complainer chime in here), iOS do not skip a beat. webos is a love/hate relationship where you just can’t get enough of it, but you also take its shortcomings and deal with it. 

    • mpachis

      I have been using the TP since Friday and having 6 to 12 cards open is no problem and very functional. 

      I think the issues have been over blown. I have an iPad2 I compare against. iPad2 definitely starts apps faster, however once the app starts on the TP it seems to function just fine.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cesar-Cristobal/100001000958001 Cesar Cristobal

    yeah i know that why i told those stupid reviewers that they should have gave the touchpad a day or a couple hours to let it synchronize because all to mother FuC**** dont know how to use WebOS!!!!

    • http://koderoid.myopenid.com/ koderoid

      They’re probably having a hard time to admit that TP is way lot better than what they have.

    • http://koderoid.myopenid.com/ koderoid

      They’re probably having a hard time to admit that TP is way lot better than what they have.

    • http://koderoid.myopenid.com/ koderoid

      They’re probably having a hard time to admit that TP is way lot better than what they have.

  • http://ignitionunlimited.com/ IGNTNUNLMTD

    Everyone who I tell that I own a TouchPad, they say: “oh, you must not have read the reviews, right? It looks bad.”

    Then I give them a live demo.

    Then they ask if Engadget had a different, older version.

  • Milt4

    Where are all the TouchPad ads?  Every day I see endless iPad ads showing what it can do but none at all regarding the TouchPad.  Does HP expect people who know nothing about the product to walk into a store and buy one?

    • http://twitter.com/bnceo Robbie C

      Not yet.  This is chess, not checkers.  They are setting it up.  I will say that if they really want to push WebOS, this needs to be their biggest ad launch ever.  

    • http://twitter.com/tsaunders tsaunders

      I have seen two touchpad apps on tv.

    • Anonymous

      I have seen 2 touchpad ads and a couple veer ads just these past few days, there coming

    • Anonymous

      I have seen 2 touchpad ads and a couple veer ads just these past few days, there coming

    • Anonymous

      I have seen 2 touchpad ads and a couple veer ads just these past few days, there coming

    • Anonymous

      I have seen 2 touchpad ads and a couple veer ads just these past few days, there coming

    • Anonymous

      I have seen 2 touchpad ads and a couple veer ads just these past few days, there coming

    • Anonymous

      I have seen 2 touchpad ads and a couple veer ads just these past few days, there coming

    • Anonymous

      I have seen 2 touchpad ads and a couple veer ads just these past few days, there coming

    • David Bowser

      I have seen pacquiao, brand, and cosgrove commercials. I saw Brand and Cosgrove while flipping through channels this past weekend.

    • Abdul

      I live in CO and I have seen one

    • Malette

      I have seen one with manny.

    • Hpwebos777

      their waiting for the launch of the pre 3.

    • Lisa

      Seen commercials w Russel Brand. Played w one at Walmart. Liked it…but no need for one. New smartphone…ya, need for that.

  • Doug Beauregard

    I went into Best Buy yesterday to play with the TP.  I immediately wanted setup bluetooth to pair with my phone to see how receiving text and calls worked on the TP.  While doing so the sales rep came over asked if I needed help, I explained what I was doing and he immediately went and got 3 other reps including the “webos” guy. None of them even knew of the feature. After further discussion they didn’t know about touch to share either.  How is the product going to be sold if the reps don’t even know about the best features.  Very sad.

    • http://twitter.com/bnceo Robbie C

      FYI, text on TP aren’t ready yet.  I think Veer is the only one that can do it.  Maybe.

      • http://twitter.com/tsaunders tsaunders

        Correct only the veer can do that right now.  Phone calls work though.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jacob-Pelroy/673263325 Jacob Pelroy

          WOW I thought I was the only person that could work the text…

    • Fango

      I hear you. After explaining to other people about it, they end up buying the touchpad. And I explain everythingit can do too. It’s funny how easy it was for me to sell it. I’m note even a salesman. I sold one at best buy and one costco. The employees don’t know crap and they rather sell me on android and when I had a salesman explain the differences between the playbook and touchpad, shewasall about theplaybook, and at the end of our conversation, she wanted the touchpad. Lets go Hp. WebOS for Life!

    • Wingman

      I did the same thing on Saturday. Went to best buy started playing with the TP and the rep showed up 10 min later trying to start to regurgitate what he learned in training. When I told him I was trying to do he said, “oh, well you probably know more than I do.” I just looked at him and smiled kindly and said something like yeah, I think I do. It ridiculous they don’t reach out to current users to sell a product than hire some monkey to regurgitate a few highlights. Anyway, it was cool to hook up my pre+ and then answer a call on the TP. One thing I can’t stand though is the push button “home screen” thing. Please don’t digress to a physical button like Apple and take away the gesture area. It’s one of those things that sets webOS apart from the rest and raises the bar in my opinion.

      • Anonymous

        I went into best buy and had a rep come up to me, took his training 5 days prior. He told me it’s his favorite OS now. I was surprised, he knew quite a bit. I mean of course I still knew more than he did but I was still impressed. He opened MLB.com and showed me how flash worked and told me he’s gonna buy a TP and pre3 when it comes out.

        • David Bowser

          I’m digging the browser. Flash has been pretty cool, and the only lag I have seen was when I had a few browser cards open with flash on them.

          I showed it to two people with ipads and all they wanted to see was how flash looked. They were business folks and some of the websites they use for their job are flash based.

    • JagF1

      Same thing happened to me. Best buy had just put out the TP demo and barely had it running when I got there. I finished the setup, finally got an employee that knew the wifi password and began giving everyone a demo. When I got around to syncing my pre- to the TP I had about 8 people gathered around to watch. I had a friend call me and when the TP received the call there was quite a reaction from the crowd. I think HP or best buys should go ahead and give me a TP for my help!

  • Fango

    I plan on picking one up, it comes with 50gigs of box.net storage right?

  • Fango

    I plan on picking one up, it comes with 50gigs of box.net storage right?

    • http://twitter.com/tsaunders tsaunders

      Yep!  It’s great!

    • mpachis

      Yes it does and it is integrated with QuickOffice. When you add your Box.net account to QuickOffice you have access to your local files and cloud files.

  • Fango

    I plan on picking one up, it comes with 50gigs of box.net storage right?

  • http://profiles.google.com/anayagamingllc Jason Buffalo

    First i have to say how can one, Advertise True Multitasking and then at the same time, argue about how sync holds everything up and the customer need to take that in account, so basically is WebOS has True Multitasking but don’t use it because your system is going down the drain.

    Second why will Developer Develop for WebOS when there is still no Documentation about Enyo, or even proper Tutorials how to utilize SDL or OpenGL ES on WebOS, sorry but any new comer will find it hard to get into WebOs if there is no Documentation about the API, and i don’t think that Third Party should go out and make up documentation that HP fails to due without compensation.

    Third Let’s Face the Facts, the Touchpad has a hard time catching on, it was a Mistake on HP part to release the Touchpad on those Conditions it is in now, it’s getting bad reviews after bad reviews from the Tech sector, 
    you have Hardware that is much Stronger then Apple A5 Chip and HP did not utilized it at all. 

  • http://profiles.google.com/anayagamingllc Jason Buffalo

    First i have to say how can one, Advertise True Multitasking and then at the same time, argue about how sync holds everything up and the customer need to take that in account, so basically is WebOS has True Multitasking but don’t use it because your system is going down the drain.

    Second why will Developer Develop for WebOS when there is still no Documentation about Enyo, or even proper Tutorials how to utilize SDL or OpenGL ES on WebOS, sorry but any new comer will find it hard to get into WebOs if there is no Documentation about the API, and i don’t think that Third Party should go out and make up documentation that HP fails to due without compensation.

    Third Let’s Face the Facts, the Touchpad has a hard time catching on, it was a Mistake on HP part to release the Touchpad on those Conditions it is in now, it’s getting bad reviews after bad reviews from the Tech sector, 
    you have Hardware that is much Stronger then Apple A5 Chip and HP did not utilized it at all. 

  • http://profiles.google.com/anayagamingllc Jason Buffalo

    First i have to say how can one, Advertise True Multitasking and then at the same time, argue about how sync holds everything up and the customer need to take that in account, so basically is WebOS has True Multitasking but don’t use it because your system is going down the drain.

    Second why will Developer Develop for WebOS when there is still no Documentation about Enyo, or even proper Tutorials how to utilize SDL or OpenGL ES on WebOS, sorry but any new comer will find it hard to get into WebOs if there is no Documentation about the API, and i don’t think that Third Party should go out and make up documentation that HP fails to due without compensation.

    Third Let’s Face the Facts, the Touchpad has a hard time catching on, it was a Mistake on HP part to release the Touchpad on those Conditions it is in now, it’s getting bad reviews after bad reviews from the Tech sector, 
    you have Hardware that is much Stronger then Apple A5 Chip and HP did not utilized it at all. 

  • http://profiles.google.com/anayagamingllc Jason Buffalo

    First i have to say how can one, Advertise True Multitasking and then at the same time, argue about how sync holds everything up and the customer need to take that in account, so basically is WebOS has True Multitasking but don’t use it because your system is going down the drain.

    Second why will Developer Develop for WebOS when there is still no Documentation about Enyo, or even proper Tutorials how to utilize SDL or OpenGL ES on WebOS, sorry but any new comer will find it hard to get into WebOs if there is no Documentation about the API, and i don’t think that Third Party should go out and make up documentation that HP fails to due without compensation.

    Third Let’s Face the Facts, the Touchpad has a hard time catching on, it was a Mistake on HP part to release the Touchpad on those Conditions it is in now, it’s getting bad reviews after bad reviews from the Tech sector, 
    you have Hardware that is much Stronger then Apple A5 Chip and HP did not utilized it at all. 

    • Fango

      Jon R. Already said in the soon update, there will be a fix to all of that. Which makes me want to ger one.

    • Fango

      Jon R. Already said in the soon update, there will be a fix to all of that. Which makes me want to ger one.

    • Fango

      Jon R. Already said in the soon update, there will be a fix to all of that. Which makes me want to ger one.

    • Fango

      Jon R. Already said in the soon update, there will be a fix to all of that. Which makes me want to ger one.

    • Fango

      Jon R. Already said in the soon update, there will be a fix to all of that. Which makes me want to ger one.

    • Fango

      Jon R. Already said in the soon update, there will be a fix to all of that. Which makes me want to ger one.

    • Fango

      Jon R. Already said in the soon update, there will be a fix to all of that. Which makes me want to ger one.

    • Fango

      Jon R. Already said in the soon update, there will be a fix to all of that. Which makes me want to ger one.

    • Fango

      Jon R. Already said in the soon update, there will be a fix to all of that. Which makes me want to ger one.

      I’m also hold out on getting a new phone, staying with my pre from sprint and letting my lady get a new phone on my account, and when the new phone finally comes to sprint, I’ll have hers to use. Hahahahaha. fbut for now, the touchpad will do just fine along with my 1gig herzzzz pre minus.

      • http://profiles.google.com/anayagamingllc Jason Buffalo

        Well the update is a bit to late, everybody got there opinion now, but what is frustrating is that HP Palm unit should have known they can not go out looking like this, but they still did. 

      • PalmOn

        Don’t count on getting any updates. HP/Palm has a track record of not providing them.

        • JDM

          Ah, two of our strongest Negative-Nancies side by side. I see rainbows of s*** flying everywhere. Just kidding :) I like reading comments that aren’t all positive. Life isn’t all positive and has quite a bit of bad things that happen.

          • http://profiles.google.com/anayagamingllc Jason Buffalo

            Hey what you want me to do, sugar coat all of this, The Last time i stood up for WebOS, and try to convince people how great it is and get a Pre, only to learn my lesson on Feb 9 Event, I can not sit here no more and give benefit  of the doubt to HP, and now somebody comes up and say “ohhh here are the problems we need to fix” they should had that fixed before release, here read this here about the disgruntle WebOS Employee.http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2388208,00.asp about a negative comment he wrote about WebOS here http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2382393,00.asp , now i leave this open to any one opinion but i think would HP invest to explain to him what WebOS is, then he mite did not had the Touchpad Bashing on the Russle Brand article.

          • Malette

            I’m believe in positivity as well. At some point; however, I think we need to face reality. You are right life isn’t all positive. With HP only having palm a little over a year now I was one of the biggest promoters of having faith and giving them time. I am starting to lose hope though. HP in my opinion should have launched this with spectacular features and only the occasional minor glitch. Yes it is first one out, but the problem is it’s not the first tablet so therefore will be compared to the ipad that’s had time to be updated. HP has said a lot of things and a lot has not gone as they said and that is upsetting the grumpies and the opptumist like myself.

        • BBooDoc

          Hogwash. Way more updates for Pre’s than Samdroid Epic I had. Droid2 still at 2.1 or 2. Only 1 update on Samdroid Acclaim, out for almost a year.

    • JDM

      At least the Palmpad didn’t make Wired.com ‘s “worst gear” list… That honor went to the JooJoo.

      • JDM
        • http://profiles.google.com/anayagamingllc Jason Buffalo

          I would not take it that far, The Touchpad is good Hardware, but the Software is what is lacking. what a OTA can fix, but everybody already said there opinion.

          • Gumby_90210

            Everyone’s mind is not made up.  This is the benefit of the soft launch that we seem to hate.  The majority of the target population has no idea what the TouchPad is.  It seems that HP has decided to let the WebOS faithful serve as beta testers.  I’m thinking they will use our complaints to prep the device for the masses.  Once they believe it is ready, they will commence with the full AD campaign. 

          • http://profiles.google.com/anayagamingllc Jason Buffalo

            Soft Launch, to soft if you ask me, sorry but this is not an excuse to ship out software that suppose to be ready by the Touchpad release, also WebOS 3.0 made CEO Leo look like a fool, with his statement that we don’t ship until it’s ready, sorry but HP has gathered all those Enterprise Businesses out there about WebOS, and i don’t think they want to be Beta Testers.

          • JDM

            Of course not, the touchpad was great when I touched it (snicker, snicker). I just think it’s fun to have fun with how bad everyone makes it out to be.

    • Capt4Chris

      The initial sync is what he’s referring to. The initial sync in webOS handles a lot of data. It would have the same effect on any tablet. After that its much better.

      • http://profiles.google.com/anayagamingllc Jason Buffalo

        Sorry but his claims is that reviewers where syncing and using the touchpad at the same time, this why it was reviewed as lagging, from what i read on issue number one, but i don’t think that Reviewers are that stupid either, also if the review was based on that, they could send out some correction or make a notice to the review, i would not be surprised if the Reviewer would update his or her review.

  • http://profiles.google.com/anayagamingllc Jason Buffalo

    First i have to say how can one, Advertise True Multitasking and then at the same time, argue about how sync holds everything up and the customer need to take that in account, so basically is WebOS has True Multitasking but don’t use it because your system is going down the drain.

    Second why will Developer Develop for WebOS when there is still no Documentation about Enyo, or even proper Tutorials how to utilize SDL or OpenGL ES on WebOS, sorry but any new comer will find it hard to get into WebOs if there is no Documentation about the API, and i don’t think that Third Party should go out and make up documentation that HP fails to due without compensation.

    Third Let’s Face the Facts, the Touchpad has a hard time catching on, it was a Mistake on HP part to release the Touchpad on those Conditions it is in now, it’s getting bad reviews after bad reviews from the Tech sector, 
    you have Hardware that is much Stronger then Apple A5 Chip and HP did not utilized it at all. 

  • Fango

    What I will miss is the ability to tap on my scren to see all my apps open. You can’t do that on 2.x and up. Right?

    • JDM

      Correct. HP needed WebOS to run smoother so they took that feature out. Now WebOS is seamless.

  • JDM

    I fount the touchpad to be quite bearable when messing around with one at BestBuy. To be fair, I also am sporting a Sprint Pixi.

    • JDM

      …and had a chance to play with the Veer. MAN, that thing zippy! Way better than touchpad.

  • http://Bungie.net TheKingOfHalo

    They need to fix the current issues with the TP and drop the Pre design, it fails.

  • Michael Van Oostendorp

    Sold my Brother in Law on one.  He has an iPhone and was planning on the iPad 2.  I took the iPad 2 and the Touchpad side by side and gave him a demonstration on the differences.  He said he mostly emails and browses the web, so I spent alot of time in the email app.  He loved the cards multitasking.  This morning he picked up a Touchpad and a Samsung Inspire (4.5″ android phone).  He said the Veer was a bit too small for him, he is a very big guy.   

    • http://www.shop-pc.co.uk Rob Woods

      ..bet he’d have gone for a Pre 3 if it was out already! Would have been great to see them together at launch!

  • Fango

    True

  • http://www.facebook.com/KimBrownJr Kim Brown

    Besides the lag when setting up my touchpad. I see barely any lag unless I’m opening lots of stuff at one time. If thing are already loaded then when opening the next has no problems. I love my touchpad. I sit on my sofa every night when watching my dvr’ed shows and play on it for an hour or two. Before my gf starts bitching about me not paying attention to her. With the hardware in this thing I can totally see how updated to the software could speed it up very well.

    • JDM

      You need to stop touching your Touchpad so much and… Well, you know where I’m going with this.

      • PalmOn

        Oh, I would never buy one with the state that it and webos are in. Without touch-to-share with a new Sprint webos phone, it is useless to me. It is also useless to me with the lack of apps and 3G/4G connectivity.

        • JDM

          AH! My post did not go in the correct place. I meant my comment for the guy above who doesn’t pay attention to his girlfriend, haha

    • Pre&EVO

      @Kim – my exact thoughts on my Touchpad…except I’m married. Very little to no lag, webOS 3.0 is so unbelievable. It is light-years ahead of the competition, even as is. A few days ago I brought my Touchpad into Best Buy looking for accessories (or to see if iPad1 accessories fit) and was able to show of features that aren’t available on the demo (such as Synergy e-mail, etc.) WebOS does more than any OS so it may always take longer to do certain things, it’s more complex.

  • PalmOn

    Did you folks read the comments on PreCentral regarding this same topic/story? I am beginning to not care whether or not Sprint gets any new webos phones. Android is looking pretty good right now. I tried the TP in Best Buy. It was……….. sluggish. There is virtuall no lag with Android tablets–and, they have phones (without lag) too. Is there an “Android Roundup” web site?

  • Gumby_90210

    IMOP the success of the TP will depend on how fast HP can respond to user complaints.  No device is perfect at launch.  They can set themselves apart by offering quick responses / solutions to common problems. 

  • Kataran

    Finally got my paws on a demo yesterday and found it to be lag free and I put it through it’s paces…the Sam’s club guy’s jaw had to be wiggled back in place….hopefully I can pick one up by the end of the rebate deadline

  • PalmOn

    The only problem there is that HP has a track record of saying they will provide updates and then not providing them. If anyone bought a TP and doesn’t like the way it’s working, then RUN and don’t walk it back to the store you bought it for and get your money back. Then IF HP fixes some of these things “in the coming months” then go and buy a new one then–and probably for $150 less than what you paid for the original.

    • TrollsrUs

      didnt you say exactly that just 15 minutes ago? :P Better more original trollin!!!!!!!!!

  • Malette

    HP TP does have a lot of work to do. There are many awesome and unique features, but just too bad they are not fully capable yet. Recently I saw the Toshiba Thrive and talk about a piece of machinery. I personally have been a palm fan for ages, but HP is not taking it in the right direction. With the ipad being so dominant you can’t release something with issues people won’t understand it is a first gen they will just compare it to the ipad. The thrive though it runs android I have to say the 3.1 honeycomb is pretty nice and even includes many similar gestures like webOS. Funny thing HP is taking away back gesture when Toshiba has added it. Main highlight is it has a removable back cover and battery. Why this isn’t already a norm is ridiculus to me. $20 for just about any color back. It has a full size usb, sd slot, hdmi, and starts priced below the ipad. Now I’m not trying to sell this though if I was to run out at this moment and buy a tablet it would be the one. I’m just trying to compare. If it can be done I’d expect a large computer manufacturer like HP to be able to do it.

    • Pre&EVO

      But it’s running Android…light-years beyond webOS…even Honeycomb.

  • Otrain

    Just got the touchpad case. I am now ok with the high gloss back. The case is really nice. Should not need to take it out.

  • Fango

    My lady is getting android, she plas on going back to webos once sprint does get a phone. As for myself the pre is fine, and I might just hold off on the touch pad but I might get it only because I would get that 50 dollar rebate. O yeah. Pther than that…im holding off becsuse I’m broke.

    • Malette

      Rebate is only good if you buy it this month. Another lame thing!

      • Malette

        Don’t get my comments wrong folks. I think webOS rocks. It is an amazing OS with loads of potential. I am simply feeling pulled towards the anit-HP crowd. I seriously expected more. Not just out of the TP, but also phones. Why is the veer the only real option on the market. Where is a pre3 or others. There should be a few choices at least. The TP should have an sd slot and at least a full size usb port. HP may be new to tablets, but it is not new to tech development. As for webOS itself they are messing with some features that makes it more advanced therefore back tracking it. We won’t even get started with sales folks. They are obviously not being trained and HP should be responsible for that. Development is not happening and HP should be making it happen.

  • Pre&EVO

    After I read some of the initial reviews & went and tried it for myself, my first thought was “What are these reviewers smoking?” I still bought it on launch day, just like I did my Pre. There are some things that frustrate me and are disappointing but I believe HP will send out an update very soon. I know they broke a few promises to us Pre owners but that was different. WebOS & the Touchpad is the future and lifeline of the largest technology company in the world. I believe they will support this more than any thing they have supported in their history. For those of you that love webOS and haven’t played with a Touchpad yet, you need to go out and try it. It has never been better.  But the true fun only comes when you have it synced to a profile (unlike the store demos), then you can see how the e-mail is so much better than anything out there. The Facebook app is better than using it on a PC. So even though it is “incomplete”, the experience is still better than anything out there.

    Oh, btw, now that I have a Touchpad, my phones (Pre & EVO) are back to being phones again and after being on the Touchpad for a couple of hours,they seem so small. Even my EVO seems little, my Pre seems like a Veer.

    webOS is the future.

  • Scotland

    I tried it out at Best Buy today and now I want one.  It works great.  webOS on a tablet finally!  The cards based multitasking interface is wonderful (nice, intuitive, full-size cards) as compared to the inelegant klunky design that Apple and Android make you suffer through.

    I still wish HP had priced it less (if you’re trying to make inroads into a market, a pricing advantage helps!) and webOS has never had near the amount of apps that other platforms have, though, hopefully we’ll start to turn the corner now.

    Though I wish the Touchpad was thinner, it feels good in the hands (though it was hard to tell exactly how heavy it was tethered to the display) and I wish they had not used the glossy back (why couldn’t they have used the same finish as the one on the Veer?)  Maybe the reviewers are right about start up times for apps not being as fast as the competition, but it feels plenty smooth in actual usage and never bothered me.  I was really blown away by how great webOS looks and feels on a tablet.  

    I was very happy to see that, even without the gesture area, the swipe up motion works perfectly to go to the card view and then to pull up the launcher (I never use the home/center button on my Pre2).  Though I’ll miss the back swipe motion a little bit, it wouldn’t have felt like webOS anymore if the up-swipe motions were gone as those are, by far, the single most used gesture and the ones that really help you quickly switch between apps and launch additional apps.

    I hope for long-time Palm fans that HP does a large enhancement on the PIM apps in an upcoming release.  Multiple reviews pointed out the lack of threaded email and, with HP’s enterprise focus for this device, it’s silly that they didn’t add this feature because otherwise, the email app is absolutely 1st rate. If HP went back to PalmOS and made webOS feature for feature compatible with the original Palm PIM apps, they would not only win over a lot of enterprise users but also win over a lot of long-time Palm fans who have drifted away over the years.

    Finally, I wish folks on the forums would stop being so negative – every article you see endless complaining.  It’s especially hard to understand because, after months of no news, HP is finally releasing new devices!! Next up – Pre3, Opal (7″ tablet), a 64GB Touchpad and, after that, who knows?  And, yes, the HW isn’t leading edge but at least it is solid and reasonably competitive.  The build quality on the Touchpad and Veer are light years ahead of what we saw on the Pre Minus.  Good times, indeed.

    • Malette

      Hey I’ve complained about the complainers before! Now I feel like the complainer. My issue is that though the newest hardware is lightyears beyond the pre it is still a few years behind what else is out there. I love cards and that’s a HUGE seller for me with webOS among other things. On the TP I miss the back swipe. I think for the current user it’s a little hard to get used to tapping a button. There is device release, but like the TP seems lagging. At the same time I feel HP is trying to hard to be Apple. They have standard devices and don’t deviate from that. I for one like some options and some pizazz. Life isn’t a rose garden and some of us find the thornes. That can be good to a certain extent. If you have a car that needs maintenance every day and gets 5mpg and you say oh at least it drives then what’s the incentive for the manufacturer to innovate and improve. Yes be happy your garden is growing and you are finally getting vegetables, but do what you need to do to get a steak with those potatoes. Ok enough analogys for now at least. All I’m saying is I’m beginning to doubt HP was the best for webOS but they wanted it and have it so they have to do something with it.

  • http://twitter.com/brassman5 Anthony Chiporo

    Finally got to go and play with one today at the local Best Buy.  Pretty impressed, really.  Everything ran smoothly, with only a little sluggishness here and there.  ipad2 is definitely snappier, but the user experience on the Touchpad is first-rate.  All I need now is $500.

  • http://www.twitter.com/drmiami DrMiami

    When I used the TP at BB, it was not doing anything in the background and was very laggy & then crashed. I’m thinking I’m going to get an iPad3 that’s about to come out & then in about 3 years go w/a TP. That should be plenty of time for HP to get it together.

  • Death

    and see the current webOS has been killed you traitor!

  • Anonymous

    Hehe bad karma